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posted Wed 20 Jul 05
Constantine: This is a film I bought resently, and I have to admit, it's not a bad little film, I have definatly seen worse. Once again this has quite an anti catholic attatude. I mean those who commit suicide do not go to hell, it's been a long time since the Catholic church has said that. These day's we leave it to God to decide the fate. The Catholic Church loves the person, but can not condone their action. God gave us life, God created us, he gave us our skills and our talents. They are his gift, we are a gift to one another given by God. We should not take our own lives, (or each others, wethier murder, abortion or euthenasia etc). As the Catholic Church they can not in good consiouness condem someone because of their actions. We can only stand by them, support them in any way we can. The old style Catholics, and those with very narrow minds will still stand by the teachings of the Church pre-vatican II and before that.

"We Should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways know to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for aslutary repentance. The Curch prays for person who have takne their own lives." 2283, Catechism of the Catholic Church


Birth Control: Oh, this is a doozy of a subject. The Catholic Church does condone birth control, what people don't understand is the thinking behind this. Bare with me as I try to explain it. The Catholic Church see's Sex as the complete giving of oneself to another.
There is a bible reference I am still looking for..... bare with me
There are no barriers. You trust that one implictly, you love them so completely that you will forsake all others. This is why the Catholic Church advocates sex within marriage only. Because if you have mutlipul sex partners (and I am refering more to one ight stands, quick flings etc), how can you truely know someone, how can you truely experience sex to it's fulliest. The Catholic Church also believes that out of sex comes the opportunity to have children.

"By it's very nature the insitituation of marriage and married love is ordered to the procreation and education of the off spring and it is in them that it finds it's crowing glory. Children are the supreme gift of amrriage adn contribute greatly to the good of the parents themselves. God himself said: 'It is not good that man should be alone,' and 'from the beginning [he] made them male and female.'; wishing to associate them in aspecial way in his own creative work, God blessed amn and woman with the words: 'Be fruitful and multiply.' Hense, true married love and the whole structure of family life which results from it, without diminishment of the other ends of marriage, are directed to disposing the spuses to co-operate valiantly witht he love of the Creator and Saviou, who through tem will increase and enrich his family from day to day." 1652, Catechism of the Catholic Church.


The Church teaches that out of the love and trust you have in someone comes Children. If you don't have that love and that trust with your partner how can you bring a child into the world. Sex is one of the last piece of the relationship puzzle, or at least it should be, not the first. You have to get to know one another, love one onther, trust the other person so completely that if a child is the result of that partnership, that pure moment between two people, that can only be for the best. Hopefully that makes some sense to y'all.

Women ordination: A resent article in that Catholic Herald, said that there are more than 800 aglican priests are threatening to become Catholic Priests, because of the ordination of women bishops within the Anglican movement. Now as a Catholic I have grown up with the idea that women can't be priests, it's a job only men do. That pissed me off then, and it pisses me off now. I think women should become priests. I've alway's felt that I had a calling to become a priest, but I also have a calling to be a mother. But that's another story. The reasoning behind why women can't become priests, suck. From my understanding it's becuase Christ was male, and his disciples were male!!!! What a cope out. I am currently working, and researching, to write a letter to the Holy Father, asking why women can't be priests and back up my reasonings to why women can become priests with scripture and sensible reasoning. I don't want to write a letter saying that it's the 21st Centry, get over the sexist attitude. This won't work. Since, for many years, I have felt that I have a vocation in the priesthood, which I am not allowed to follow, I feel that I can put a strong case together. This is the only way it will come around, if women who want to become Catholic Priests, write to the Pope in a sensible and calm mannor with a logical and clear thinging letter that is not condesending nor anti teachings, just help Rome change their views. It's only by doing this, and allow Rome to see how this affects people that things change. On a side note if there are any Catholic Women out there who have a similar calling that they can not realises please contact me and we can try and write this letter together.

I love being Catholic, I have been Catholic my entire life, even when I hated God and wanted nothing to do with him, and exploring other religions/demoninations I still found myself being drawn back to Catholicism. It's who I am, and I will NEVER appoligise for that, equally though I will not (or at least I try not to) judge others who have a different opinions. I will discuss anything, but I will not get into an argument or have a falling out over what I believe. I believe what I believe, you believe what you believe. I can't stand people who have no contact with whatever religion, and decide they hate it. Research that religion, get to know it. Then critises. Until then, you have no right. I didn't know about Wicca so I learnt. Now I teach others. It's not evil. It's not the devil. If people have questions you are more than free to ask. If you are going to attack me, I will ignore you. Keep an open mind.

I was watching Nip/Tuck last night, and they too had a very negative attatude towards the catholic faith.  When will it stop, when will people actually look at the Catholic Church as it is now, not as it was 100 years ago.  The Catholic Church is alway's changing.  Society tells us not to judge people on what they WERE but what they ARE, why can't people do that with the Catholic Church as well.

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1. Gazelem left...
Thu 21 Jul 05 12:05 pm :: http://gazelem.blog-city.com/

You might be interested in Michael Medved's book, Hollywood vs. America. He has a chapter (or several of them) on Hollywood's "attack" on religion and the Catholic church. Check it out at the library an puruse these chapters, I think you will enjoy it. Be forwarned that there are portions of this book that are rather graphic. So, I advise you to read it with caution.


2. MrDan left...
Thu 21 Jul 05 4:10 pm :: http://alien.blog-city,com

The church will come around on the subject of women priests, just as the Anglican church has. Progress is slow in any very large organisation. A lot of the leaders of the church are old men and it's hard for them to shift away from the values they have stuck to all their lives. I'm afraid attitudes to the church will take a long time to progress too.

MrDan


3. Milla left...
Sat 23 Jul 05 3:59 pm

but doesn't the catholic church judge people as well? that's the impression i've been under.


4. Red Baron left...
Mon 25 Jul 05 2:13 pm :: http://redbaron.blog-city.com/

The problem with most organised religions is they are simply too rigid in comparison with the fluidity of human socio-evolution.

Catholicism is a prime example, thee are many within the Catholic church who are still very pre Vatican II. Furthermore the sanctity of the word of the Pontiff is just, well it's a rather outdated hierarchical concept.

The Catholic church is not the only reactionary presence in the world by any means and many other churches are more so. Some of the Latin American catholic priests appear to be going back much more accurately to the teachings of Christ and whilst I do not believe Christ was the son of God anymore I do believe he was a humanitarian leader and thinker of fundamental importance.

Sadly as with other religions the institutions seem to pick and choose which parts to base their doctrine on and this is a poor advert for the religion in general and denegrates those that would live according to virtuous tenets.

I cannot help bu think that sex before marriage is a good way to find out different facets of a person before committing, and if you are to take that committment seriously then you should look at all the angles properly. I do not however, personally agree with abortion in many circumstances, where there is a serious exception then I believe it can constitute a necessary evil but to have the ability for almost cosmetic purposes is an abberation to humanity religious or not.


5. June left...
Sat 10 Dec 05 5:23 am

Check out Sean Forrest's radio show on Monday nights. You might be interested. www.mwts.org


6. Drawin the d. left...
Mon 12 Dec 05 4:39 am

There was also the 72 minutes long documentary "Hollywood vs. Catholicism", produced in 1996 by the Chatham Hill Foundation of Dallas, Texas (intended for an adult audience because it includes explicit material), which goes in the same line of what Mr. Michael Medved has written and said (if I remember well he is not Catholic but as a critic recognizes some facts about how Hollywood favours scripts that affect various religions and their morals). Every faith of religious human groups has its own views --- and mistakes, because no human is perfect; we still have to wait for Jesus Christ to come again and until then we have to set some rules; those rules have been perfected through the centuries, since society evolves along with its knowledge. Pope John Paul II admitted some mistakes of the past. The Catholic faith is specially targeted by the media and some opinion leaders because of its important comparative size in the world. As a male Catholic I'm not opposed to female priests in the future; female deacons were unheard of in the past and now there are women in that function. Jesus had male and female disciples, and if He chose male apostles back then for his special mission it can be because it was a very different time -- it was the society then that picked one gender as the most effective one to spread the Gospel in the difficult years that followed. And women seemed to be behind them all the time but it's also possible that their achievements weren't recognized by lasting documents. However, the first person Jesus talked to after his resurrection was a woman; that has to mean something too.